Alfa Romeo Giulia Nuova
- interceptor
- Garaža: Crosswagon Q4, Smart City coupe
- Lokacija: B. Petrovac
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Ma garantovano ima u planu i automatik,pa koji pravi amer će kupiti sa manualnim menjačem
- Alfanatic
- Garaža: Giulia Sprint 2.0
200 AT8 RWD '21 Vesuvio Grigio
+ MiTo QV '10 Rosso
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ex Giulietta 1.4 170 '17 Misano
ex MiTo 1.4 155 '09 Rosso
ex 156 2.0 TS '00 Grigio
ex 145 1.4 Boxer '95 Blue
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Hajde ljudi, šta vam je!? Pa Giulia je namenjena onim prosvećenim Amerima koji žele i znaju da voze
Šalu na stranu, videli smo taj jedan top model, ali na varijacije moramo sačekati i njih će sigurno biti. Prosto ih mora biti ili su svi snovi o višestruko uvećanoj prodaji upravo samo to - slatki snovi...
Šalu na stranu, videli smo taj jedan top model, ali na varijacije moramo sačekati i njih će sigurno biti. Prosto ih mora biti ili su svi snovi o višestruko uvećanoj prodaji upravo samo to - slatki snovi...
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- Shanirani
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- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Kamuflirana... hmm
Mada neke novine kazu da je ovo testiranje na Nurburgringu..
Mada neke novine kazu da je ovo testiranje na Nurburgringu..
- Alfanatic
- Garaža: Giulia Sprint 2.0
200 AT8 RWD '21 Vesuvio Grigio
+ MiTo QV '10 Rosso
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ex Giulietta 1.4 170 '17 Misano
ex MiTo 1.4 155 '09 Rosso
ex 156 2.0 TS '00 Grigio
ex 145 1.4 Boxer '95 Blue
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- Stromboli
- Garaža: Giulia 952 QV
Alfa Romeo 159 1.9 JTDm 16V - Lokacija: Novi Sad
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Nijedan auto ne izgleda bolje sa svim tim kamuflazama na sebi, ali je Giulii upravo to uspelo. Da su joj ovakvi farovi napred, bila bi mnogo bolja, govorimo o vizuelnom ugodjaju.
Ove brojke me uopste ne iznenadjuju, tih 200milja kad kazu amerikancima, odmah ce se rasprodati ceo kontigent za americko trziste.
Ove brojke me uopste ne iznenadjuju, tih 200milja kad kazu amerikancima, odmah ce se rasprodati ceo kontigent za americko trziste.
`...owning an Alfa is a portal...´ - dovoljno receno.
- Shanirani
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- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Ima negde alika gde su je kao test vozilo vozili 299...
- Shanirani
- Contact:
- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
- Alfanatic
- Garaža: Giulia Sprint 2.0
200 AT8 RWD '21 Vesuvio Grigio
+ MiTo QV '10 Rosso
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ex Giulietta 1.4 170 '17 Misano
ex MiTo 1.4 155 '09 Rosso
ex 156 2.0 TS '00 Grigio
ex 145 1.4 Boxer '95 Blue
...................................... - Lokacija: Indjija
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
@ Stromboli
Ma toliko je dobra da je ni kamuflaža ne može pokvariti
Kažem ti ja, pusti da se malo slegnu utisci i da je doživiš u prirodi jer sam siguran da su dizajneri uradili ono što treba i da će ovaj look biti dugo vremena svež i aktuelan dok u međuvremenu A4 doživi 4 restilizacije
Praktično samo se na farove valja navići, što mislim da neće biti problem velikoj većini, a za sve ostalo teško da će uživo biti manje od
Ma toliko je dobra da je ni kamuflaža ne može pokvariti
Kažem ti ja, pusti da se malo slegnu utisci i da je doživiš u prirodi jer sam siguran da su dizajneri uradili ono što treba i da će ovaj look biti dugo vremena svež i aktuelan dok u međuvremenu A4 doživi 4 restilizacije
Praktično samo se na farove valja navići, što mislim da neće biti problem velikoj većini, a za sve ostalo teško da će uživo biti manje od
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- Shanirani
- Contact:
- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
- Stromboli
- Garaža: Giulia 952 QV
Alfa Romeo 159 1.9 JTDm 16V - Lokacija: Novi Sad
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Osnovna verzija izgleda bolje od QV.
@Alfanatic: nisam jos preobracen, dok je ne vidim uzivo necu moci dati konacan sud. Siguran sam da ce se prodavati i da ce ispuniti ciljeve koji su stavljeni pred nju. Tehnologija je tu, izbor motora je tu, izgledom je ok, ali nista posebno, moj dojam naravno. Ali najbitnije je da se svidja ovima sto ne voze Alfe, a oni su ciljna grupa. Svi koji ne voze Alfe, a s kojima sam pricao o Giulii, su odusevljeni. Prva Alfa koja ce moci da se kupi mozgom, stavis sve lepo na papir, uporedis, vidis da je bolja, probas, odgovara, kupis. Govorim o normalnim zemljama.
@Alfanatic: nisam jos preobracen, dok je ne vidim uzivo necu moci dati konacan sud. Siguran sam da ce se prodavati i da ce ispuniti ciljeve koji su stavljeni pred nju. Tehnologija je tu, izbor motora je tu, izgledom je ok, ali nista posebno, moj dojam naravno. Ali najbitnije je da se svidja ovima sto ne voze Alfe, a oni su ciljna grupa. Svi koji ne voze Alfe, a s kojima sam pricao o Giulii, su odusevljeni. Prva Alfa koja ce moci da se kupi mozgom, stavis sve lepo na papir, uporedis, vidis da je bolja, probas, odgovara, kupis. Govorim o normalnim zemljama.
`...owning an Alfa is a portal...´ - dovoljno receno.
- Shanirani
- Contact:
- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Seven surprises on new Alfa Romeo Giulia revealed by chief engineer..
Judging by the reaction online, it’s difficult not to conclude that Alfa Romeo has wowed the world with its new Giulia saloon. While not everybody was smitten with its looks, unveiled to the world at an event in Milan on 24 June 2015, the whole motoring fraternity certainly sat up and took notice.
Alfa is continuing to fettle the new compact exec ahead of sales starting in spring 2016. Hence our spies caught still-disguised Giulias on test near the Nurburgring in Germany this week, as the development programme moves into the final validation testing phase.
Before more details are announced at the Frankfurt motor show, CAR magazine caught up with the programme’s chief engineer Philippe Krief for an exclusive one-to-one interview to hear the Giulia’s full technical background. We asked him what the knock-out features on the new car are. Read on for seven pearls of insight we learned.
1) The Alfa Romeo Giulia was developed in just two-and-a-half years
This 159 successor has been a long-time coming after numerous delays: the earlier front-wheel drive programme was canned in its entirety, deemed untrue to the brand after Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne ordered a more radical replacement. ‘You ask every car maker: doing a car in two years, everyone will tell you it’s not possible,’ says Krief. ‘The industry standard says four, the longest say five years, everywhere in the world. We had to do it in two and a half years. Marchionne said – and he’s right – the only way to achieve that is to be different.’ Click here to read Sergio Marchionne on the Giulia.
2) The skunkworks mentality and the team of 10
Marchionne authorised a crack skunkworks team to lead the Giulia project. Krief remembers the call-up well. ‘It was 29 April 2013. I was working at Ferrari and received a phone call saying “You have to come and do the new Alfa, we have to do something totally different. So please take a bunch of guys, go somewhere and think about that. You have two years and two months!”’ He appointed a team of 10 specialists in different departments to set the parameters for the programme and they installed themselves away from the usual R&D centre. ‘We were together always, so we had a huge amount of ideas and a quick decision-making process that you can’t have in a big company.’
3) Why the Giulia uses plenty of aluminium and carbonfibre
‘We had two targets: first, weight-to-power ratio,’ says Krief, who’s internally dubbed head skunk (now that’s a business card!). ‘We knew that we wanted to have a car around 1500kg for the Cloverleaf. Then we needed to do the optimisation, to decide where we wanted to save weight, where we could afford to have normal steel. We also decided on the cost criteria: you have to save weight where it’s efficient, but to save weight you always have to pay. On the door it’s efficient, if I pay X I can save a lot of weight; in other areas it’s not that efficient because you only save a little weight and you pay a lot. Suspension arms are mostly aluminium, front and rear, the engines are aluminium, the doors and fenders are all in aluminium, the boot on this one [the Cloverleaf] is carbonfibre, the roof also, we have also the propshaft in carbonfibre and structure of the seats.’
4) There’s a little bit of Ferrari sparkle in the handling
Krief was a senior engineer at Ferrari and promises there’s a little bit of Maranello magic in the new Giulia’s chassis dynamics. ‘I worked on the 458, the Speciale especially,’ he tells CAR. ‘Ferrari had a big advantage of having rear-wheel drive, so it’s exactly the same kind of stuff we wanted to put on the Giulia, this kind of feeling… It has to be precise, very quick, very agile, very stable. It drives fantastically really.’
5) The Cloverleaf can send all its torque to a single rear wheel
Over to the chief engineer to explain the torque vectoring available on the new Giulia. ‘You have a differential, two clutches, there’s always torque coming, even if you’re not on the throttle. Thanks to the torque vectoring, this torque can be split front and rear, left and right. It can create whatever you want: to start stable, have oversteer, then stable, understeer, you can do what you want because this clutch is very fast, the control is very fast… Today the limit of the car is given by the tyres but here you have to think that once you are at the tyre’s limit, it’s like you have a hand above that can add an extra element. You can send 100% to one wheel, it can send everything to one wheel, or another.’
6) The V6 engine is an Alfa classic
‘The V6 is a ground-up build,’ Krief vows. ‘Twin turbos, 90 degree bank, what was important for us was the feeling, it’s not necessarily the amount of torque. When you drive the car, when you accelerate, you can have all the torque suddenly then nothing, or you can have torque which is increasing, increasing, increasing: we use the amount of torque and we tune it to always have this situation, this feeling. Torque is dependent on gear choice: on first and second gear, you can have a huge amount of torque, here we are very progressive, on third and fourth, we are still progressive, but on fifth and sixth gear you have less torque because here you are looking for power. So we give more torque on the lower revs. Yet even in sixth gear, you accelerate and then vooom! There will be other engines of course. We will show these engines in Frankfurt.’ Will there be a four-cylinder Giulia? ‘Probably. And we are package-protected for V6 diesel, we can install it in the car and after we can decide whether to put it in or not.’
7) The Giulia’s active aero changes shape as you drive
‘We wanted the maximum of everything, best engine, weight, suspension, tyres and torque vectoring, and best possible aerodynamics,' says Krief. 'You have to create downforce, it increases the performance of your tyres. So we’ve developed this device to increase downforce in corners. We start from the basis where the car has natural downforce, but then we increase it in a bend: so in curves, the splitter is working to give you more downforce; go back to a straight line and we want low Cx, low drag. The Giulia has two electric actuators linked to the ECU that understands if you’re in a corner or a straight line, whether you’re in an understeer or oversteer situation, and in respect of that decides how to move the splitter.’
Judging by the reaction online, it’s difficult not to conclude that Alfa Romeo has wowed the world with its new Giulia saloon. While not everybody was smitten with its looks, unveiled to the world at an event in Milan on 24 June 2015, the whole motoring fraternity certainly sat up and took notice.
Alfa is continuing to fettle the new compact exec ahead of sales starting in spring 2016. Hence our spies caught still-disguised Giulias on test near the Nurburgring in Germany this week, as the development programme moves into the final validation testing phase.
Before more details are announced at the Frankfurt motor show, CAR magazine caught up with the programme’s chief engineer Philippe Krief for an exclusive one-to-one interview to hear the Giulia’s full technical background. We asked him what the knock-out features on the new car are. Read on for seven pearls of insight we learned.
1) The Alfa Romeo Giulia was developed in just two-and-a-half years
This 159 successor has been a long-time coming after numerous delays: the earlier front-wheel drive programme was canned in its entirety, deemed untrue to the brand after Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne ordered a more radical replacement. ‘You ask every car maker: doing a car in two years, everyone will tell you it’s not possible,’ says Krief. ‘The industry standard says four, the longest say five years, everywhere in the world. We had to do it in two and a half years. Marchionne said – and he’s right – the only way to achieve that is to be different.’ Click here to read Sergio Marchionne on the Giulia.
2) The skunkworks mentality and the team of 10
Marchionne authorised a crack skunkworks team to lead the Giulia project. Krief remembers the call-up well. ‘It was 29 April 2013. I was working at Ferrari and received a phone call saying “You have to come and do the new Alfa, we have to do something totally different. So please take a bunch of guys, go somewhere and think about that. You have two years and two months!”’ He appointed a team of 10 specialists in different departments to set the parameters for the programme and they installed themselves away from the usual R&D centre. ‘We were together always, so we had a huge amount of ideas and a quick decision-making process that you can’t have in a big company.’
3) Why the Giulia uses plenty of aluminium and carbonfibre
‘We had two targets: first, weight-to-power ratio,’ says Krief, who’s internally dubbed head skunk (now that’s a business card!). ‘We knew that we wanted to have a car around 1500kg for the Cloverleaf. Then we needed to do the optimisation, to decide where we wanted to save weight, where we could afford to have normal steel. We also decided on the cost criteria: you have to save weight where it’s efficient, but to save weight you always have to pay. On the door it’s efficient, if I pay X I can save a lot of weight; in other areas it’s not that efficient because you only save a little weight and you pay a lot. Suspension arms are mostly aluminium, front and rear, the engines are aluminium, the doors and fenders are all in aluminium, the boot on this one [the Cloverleaf] is carbonfibre, the roof also, we have also the propshaft in carbonfibre and structure of the seats.’
4) There’s a little bit of Ferrari sparkle in the handling
Krief was a senior engineer at Ferrari and promises there’s a little bit of Maranello magic in the new Giulia’s chassis dynamics. ‘I worked on the 458, the Speciale especially,’ he tells CAR. ‘Ferrari had a big advantage of having rear-wheel drive, so it’s exactly the same kind of stuff we wanted to put on the Giulia, this kind of feeling… It has to be precise, very quick, very agile, very stable. It drives fantastically really.’
5) The Cloverleaf can send all its torque to a single rear wheel
Over to the chief engineer to explain the torque vectoring available on the new Giulia. ‘You have a differential, two clutches, there’s always torque coming, even if you’re not on the throttle. Thanks to the torque vectoring, this torque can be split front and rear, left and right. It can create whatever you want: to start stable, have oversteer, then stable, understeer, you can do what you want because this clutch is very fast, the control is very fast… Today the limit of the car is given by the tyres but here you have to think that once you are at the tyre’s limit, it’s like you have a hand above that can add an extra element. You can send 100% to one wheel, it can send everything to one wheel, or another.’
6) The V6 engine is an Alfa classic
‘The V6 is a ground-up build,’ Krief vows. ‘Twin turbos, 90 degree bank, what was important for us was the feeling, it’s not necessarily the amount of torque. When you drive the car, when you accelerate, you can have all the torque suddenly then nothing, or you can have torque which is increasing, increasing, increasing: we use the amount of torque and we tune it to always have this situation, this feeling. Torque is dependent on gear choice: on first and second gear, you can have a huge amount of torque, here we are very progressive, on third and fourth, we are still progressive, but on fifth and sixth gear you have less torque because here you are looking for power. So we give more torque on the lower revs. Yet even in sixth gear, you accelerate and then vooom! There will be other engines of course. We will show these engines in Frankfurt.’ Will there be a four-cylinder Giulia? ‘Probably. And we are package-protected for V6 diesel, we can install it in the car and after we can decide whether to put it in or not.’
7) The Giulia’s active aero changes shape as you drive
‘We wanted the maximum of everything, best engine, weight, suspension, tyres and torque vectoring, and best possible aerodynamics,' says Krief. 'You have to create downforce, it increases the performance of your tyres. So we’ve developed this device to increase downforce in corners. We start from the basis where the car has natural downforce, but then we increase it in a bend: so in curves, the splitter is working to give you more downforce; go back to a straight line and we want low Cx, low drag. The Giulia has two electric actuators linked to the ECU that understands if you’re in a corner or a straight line, whether you’re in an understeer or oversteer situation, and in respect of that decides how to move the splitter.’
- Vlada R
- Garaža: ex Alfa 159 JTDm restyle
- Lokacija: Beograd
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Kako čitam ove tekstove vidim šta je kvalitetan marketing. Vezati Giuliu za Ferarri dizajnerski tim, high tech tehnologije i sve ostalo. Treba samo imati u vidu da narodne verzije neće imati dobar deo ovih sexy dodataka o kojima je ovde lepo čitati ali čije benefite nećemo moći osetiti. Jedva čekam proleće i nadam se da će se lepo prodavati, ne samo u USA već i na teritoriji Evrope.
Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Čisto sumnjam, mada ne isključujem mogućnost, da će bixenon biti standard. Meni ove felne ne idu uz sportski imidž Giulie, kao da su sa neke Lancie skinute.Shanirani napisao:Ovo je izgleda onovna verzija..
http://www.omniauto.it/magazine/31467/a ... sione-base
Kako čitam ove tekstove vidim šta je kvalitetan marketing. Vezati Giuliu za Ferarri dizajnerski tim, high tech tehnologije i sve ostalo. Treba samo imati u vidu da narodne verzije neće imati dobar deo ovih sexy dodataka o kojima je ovde lepo čitati ali čije benefite nećemo moći osetiti. Jedva čekam proleće i nadam se da će se lepo prodavati, ne samo u USA već i na teritoriji Evrope.
- Shanirani
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- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Predstavljena djulija je bila koncept. Ova kamuflirana je oficialna. Isto je qv teatirana na nurburingu.
- Shanirani
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Oficijalna slika sa Alfinog sajta... Klasicna Alfa i kvalitet zavrsne obrade
Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Oficijalna slika sa Alfinog sajta... Klasicna Alfa i kvalitet zavrsne obrade
- Stromboli
- Garaža: Giulia 952 QV
Alfa Romeo 159 1.9 JTDm 16V - Lokacija: Novi Sad
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Dobro je, manji je zazor nego na nekim 159kama . Kako kazu u Top Gear, mera preciznosti u Evropi je jedan milimetar, a u Americi jedan inch. Italijani su dakle negde izmedju .
`...owning an Alfa is a portal...´ - dovoljno receno.
- MiloshBg
- Garaža: No Alfa, no fun...
- Lokacija: Beograd
- Lokacija: Beograd
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
A to je normalno za 'talijane.
Alfa Romeo - The car inside the driver.
- Shanirani
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- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
- AckeB
- Drug Član
- Garaža: -
- Lokacija: Sremska Kamenica
- Lokacija: Sremska Kamenica (NS)
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Iskreno, mene ovo raduje.
Un amore, una vita - Alfa Romeo
- moljac
- Garaža: BMW F10 535xd
- Lokacija: Pancevo
- Lokacija: Pancevo
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Pogledajte slike novih BMW-ova i Mercedesa,isti slucaj sa zazorima na pojedinim delovima karoserije...samo sto ce ovo kod Alfe da bude minus,posto treba da se pokaze na trzistu (realno,ljudi previse ocekuju od Giulie),a i losa reputacija je prati i dalje
- Shanirani
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Pa trebali su bar na promo fotki to da srede.. Ovo bas bode oci..
Danas je bio zadnji dan (koliko sam skontao) da ljudi otidju i vide Djuliju uzivo u muzeju.
A evo par slika kako izgleda enterijer..
Danas je bio zadnji dan (koliko sam skontao) da ljudi otidju i vide Djuliju uzivo u muzeju.
A evo par slika kako izgleda enterijer..
- vojaalfa
- Drug Član
- Garaža: 156 1.8TS SW
- Lokacija: Beograd
- Lokacija: Bgd-Zarkovo
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Au šareniši, sviđa mi se što više nemože niko od pozadi da ti gura kolena u bubrege al je zato nahebo u slučaju sudara.
Što se tiče zazora to tako treba ta će vremenom da legne i biti će savršeno.
Šolje za kafu, malo 159, malo 156 utisak je da su previše hteli a lično moj je da su dobili papazjaniju. Mislim da je jednostavnost i funkcionalnost i dalje ,,keva,, da nekažem mama.
Što se tiče zazora to tako treba ta će vremenom da legne i biti će savršeno.
Šolje za kafu, malo 159, malo 156 utisak je da su previše hteli a lično moj je da su dobili papazjaniju. Mislim da je jednostavnost i funkcionalnost i dalje ,,keva,, da nekažem mama.
- erdeljan
- BANOVAN
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- Lokacija: Malmo
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Slikao kolega iz svedskog Alfa Romeo Kluba kada je bio na Nurburgring-u
Ja imam sve što mi treba: Parče zemlje, komad neba, koru hleba, i nekog' gore što me gleda!
- Shanirani
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- Garaža: 156 2.0 TS
- Lokacija: Blace
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Evo kako izgleda tabla (koju ce vecina rasturati za tipa 10-15 godina )
I deo karoserije..
I deo karoserije..
- Shanirani
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- Lokacija: Blace
- Alfanatic
- Garaža: Giulia Sprint 2.0
200 AT8 RWD '21 Vesuvio Grigio
+ MiTo QV '10 Rosso
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ex Giulietta 1.4 170 '17 Misano
ex MiTo 1.4 155 '09 Rosso
ex 156 2.0 TS '00 Grigio
ex 145 1.4 Boxer '95 Blue
...................................... - Lokacija: Indjija
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Re: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio Verde
Pravi grad za promociju takve lepotice
Uh, što moćno izgleda
Uh, što moćno izgleda
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